officially dead?!

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officially dead?!

Martin DeMello

2007-06-10 12:29:48 UTC

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Is FreeRIDE really closing its doors, or did someone vandalise the wiki?

martin

Jonathan Maasland

2007-06-10 13:47:19 UTC

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Well I know that our wiki is vandalized quite often but I wouldn't call
FreeRIDE dead. At the moment I'm working on fixing Ripper which is quite
alot of work so I'm not really looking at the wiki changes. Alot of
vandalized pages didn't exist before we got targeted by some automated
wiki vandalizer. That being said there's still alot of work to be done
before we can even think of getting a new release out. (Especially on my
part)

Jonathan

Post by Martin DeMello
Is FreeRIDE really closing its doors, or did someone vandalise the wiki?
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Martin DeMello

2007-06-10 13:57:29 UTC

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This is not your typical wikispam - it's a very official looking
notice on the front page:

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This is the home page for FreeRIDE, a dead IDE for the Ruby
programming language. It is distributed under the same terms as Ruby
itself. If this is your first visit here, please click on Preferences
above to register so that your name can be associated with your
changes and contributions.

2007-05-21 FreeRIDE Is Officially Dead
We are sorry to announce that FreeRIDE is now dead. Sorry for wasting
everyone's time.
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It set off my vandal meter, but I thought I'd check before reverting it.

martin

Post by Jonathan Maasland
Well I know that our wiki is vandalized quite often but I wouldn't call
FreeRIDE dead. At the moment I'm working on fixing Ripper which is quite
alot of work so I'm not really looking at the wiki changes. Alot of
vandalized pages didn't exist before we got targeted by some automated
wiki vandalizer. That being said there's still alot of work to be done
before we can even think of getting a new release out. (Especially on my
part)
Jonathan

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Jonathan Maasland

2007-06-10 14:09:46 UTC

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Hadn't noticed that. Maybe Laurent or Curt could say something about this.
To be honest I would've expected that an email would've been sent to
either mailinglist if FR really were to be pronounced dead.

Besides, after a long year, I'm back to working on FR so it's not as if
it is really really dead.

Jonathan

Post by Martin DeMello
This is not your typical wikispam - it's a very official looking
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
This is the home page for FreeRIDE, a dead IDE for the Ruby
programming language. It is distributed under the same terms as Ruby
itself. If this is your first visit here, please click on Preferences
above to register so that your name can be associated with your
changes and contributions.
2007-05-21 FreeRIDE Is Officially Dead
We are sorry to announce that FreeRIDE is now dead. Sorry for wasting
everyone's time.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
It set off my vandal meter, but I thought I'd check before reverting it.
martin

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Martin DeMello

2007-06-10 14:12:02 UTC

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Yeah, I reverted it for now. Was just a bit of a shock seeing it up there.

martin

Post by Jonathan Maasland
Hadn't noticed that. Maybe Laurent or Curt could say something about this.
To be honest I would've expected that an email would've been sent to either
mailinglist if FR really were to be pronounced dead.
Besides, after a long year, I'm back to working on FR so it's not as if it
is really really dead.
Jonathan
This is not your typical wikispam - it's a very official looking
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
This is the home page for FreeRIDE, a dead IDE for the Ruby
programming language. It is distributed under the same terms as Ruby
itself. If this is your first visit here, please click on Preferences
above to register so that your name can be associated with your
changes and contributions.
2007-05-21 FreeRIDE Is Officially Dead
We are sorry to announce that FreeRIDE is now dead. Sorry for wasting
everyone's time.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
It set off my vandal meter, but I thought I'd check before reverting it.
martin
Well I know that our wiki is vandalized quite often but I wouldn't call
FreeRIDE dead. At the moment I'm working on fixing Ripper which is quite
alot of work so I'm not really looking at the wiki changes. Alot of
vandalized pages didn't exist before we got targeted by some automated
wiki vandalizer. That being said there's still alot of work to be done
before we can even think of getting a new release out. (Especially on my
part)
Jonathan
Is FreeRIDE really closing its doors, or did someone vandalise the wiki?
martin
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Curt Hibbs

2007-06-11 02:34:23 UTC

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FreeRIDE is not dead, but I wish we could get more people interested in
working on it. I usually check for wiki spam once every week or two and
revert it. Thanks for beating me to it!

Curt

Post by Martin DeMello
Yeah, I reverted it for now. Was just a bit of a shock seeing it up there.
martin

Post by Jonathan Maasland
Hadn't noticed that. Maybe Laurent or Curt could say something about

this.

Post by Jonathan Maasland
To be honest I would've expected that an email would've been sent to

either

Post by Jonathan Maasland
mailinglist if FR really were to be pronounced dead.
Besides, after a long year, I'm back to working on FR so it's not as if

Post by Jonathan Maasland
is really really dead.
Jonathan
This is not your typical wikispam - it's a very official looking

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Post by Jonathan Maasland
This is the home page for FreeRIDE, a dead IDE for the Ruby
programming language. It is distributed under the same terms as Ruby
itself. If this is your first visit here, please click on Preferences
above to register so that your name can be associated with your
changes and contributions.
2007-05-21 FreeRIDE Is Officially Dead
We are sorry to announce that FreeRIDE is now dead. Sorry for wasting
everyone's time.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Post by Jonathan Maasland
It set off my vandal meter, but I thought I'd check before reverting it.
martin
Well I know that our wiki is vandalized quite often but I wouldn't call
FreeRIDE dead. At the moment I'm working on fixing Ripper which is quite
alot of work so I'm not really looking at the wiki changes. Alot of
vandalized pages didn't exist before we got targeted by some automated
wiki vandalizer. That being said there's still alot of work to be done
before we can even think of getting a new release out. (Especially on my
part)
Jonathan
Is FreeRIDE really closing its doors, or did someone vandalise the

wiki?

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Marcin Raczkowski

2007-06-11 11:50:59 UTC

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there was e-mail sent to mailing list about it.<http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/freeride-devel>

project is no longer needed - it's far behind other ide's (like netbeans or
Aptana) and noone is really dedicated to work on it full time while other
ide improve daily becouse of commercial support.

Jonathan Maasland

2007-06-11 12:40:02 UTC

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I respectfully disagree, Netbeans is Java-based and (on my computer at
least) slow as hell. I haven't looked at Aptana, but then again I'm not
a webdeveloper. Other options are RubyInSteel which is only for Windows
and ArachnoRuby which isn't freeware.

FreeRIDE is free, crossplatform and fast and simple. Once we get some of
the openstanding bugs fixed and tie in a new debugger we should be right
up there with the other IDE's. The biggest drawback I can think of is
that we currently don't have AutoCompletion and won't have in the
forseeable future unless someone spends considerable time on the
subject. And we're missing RubyOnRails support, which shouldn't be alot
of work to build into FR.

Jonathan

there was e-mail sent to mailing list about it.
<http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/freeride-devel>

Your link doesn't point anywhere, could you repost it??

project is no longer needed - it's far behind other ide's (like
netbeans or Aptana) and noone is really dedicated to work on it full
time while other ide improve daily becouse of commercial support.
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Meinrad Recheis

2007-06-11 12:57:23 UTC

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Post by Jonathan Maasland
I respectfully disagree, Netbeans is Java-based and (on my computer at
least) slow as hell. I haven't looked at Aptana, but then again I'm not a
webdeveloper. Other options are RubyInSteel which is only for Windows and
ArachnoRuby which isn't freeware.

please also don't forget about RDE and Mondrian, which are both promising.

-- henon

Martin DeMello

2007-06-11 17:25:35 UTC

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Post by Meinrad Recheis

please also don't forget about RDE and Mondrian, which are both promising.

I've been wondering if FreeRide can borrow anything from Mondrian.

martin

Jonathan Maasland

2007-06-11 22:16:29 UTC

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To be honest that's what I was thinking of when I read that they've
implemented a debugger system using rdebug.

Don't know if the license is compatible. I believe they use the MIT
license and we're using GPL. I'm not really a license buff

Jonathan

Post by Martin DeMello

Post by Meinrad Recheis

please also don't forget about RDE and Mondrian, which are both promising.

I've been wondering if FreeRide can borrow anything from Mondrian.
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Curt Hibbs

2007-06-12 04:36:17 UTC

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We could switch to MIT.

Curt

Post by Jonathan Maasland
To be honest that's what I was thinking of when I read that they've
implemented a debugger system using rdebug.
Don't know if the license is compatible. I believe they use the MIT
license and we're using GPL. I'm not really a license buff
Jonathan
I respectfully disagree, Netbeans is Java-based and (on my computer at
least) slow as hell. I haven't looked at Aptana, but then again I'm not a
webdeveloper. Other options are RubyInSteel which is only for Windows and
ArachnoRuby which isn't freeware.
please also don't forget about RDE and Mondrian, which are both promising.
I've been wondering if FreeRide can borrow anything from Mondrian.
martin
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Robert McGovern

2007-06-12 12:58:01 UTC

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there was e-mail sent to mailing list about it.

Not that I have found in the archives so far. I can see reference to
Gillies no longer updating FXScintilla.

project is no longer needed - it's far behind other ide's (like
netbeans or Aptana) and noone is really dedicated to work on it
full time while other ide improve daily becouse of commercial support.

While I can't comment on the former doing no dev work whatsoever at
the min, I can see your point with the later. However that is not a
reason to say that the project is no longer needed. People here must
think the project has value otherwise they wouldn't be working on it
when they can.

Rob